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      Home  >  General News  >  GM Fier with 3172 ELO performance

      GM Fier with 3172 ELO performance

      Alexandr Fier, Open Internacional de Sants


      GM Alexandr Fier is on fire at Open Sants

      We were amazed when GM Alexandr Fier broke the ELO 3000 performance barrier a few days ago at Open Internacional de Sants. However, after seven rounds he continues to amaze everyone. GM Fier keeps his perfect 7,0/7 score after a victory over GM Gonzales, which guarantees him a rating performance of over 3172!

      If he continues to play at the same pace and wins the final two games, GM Alexandr Fier will break his personal record of ELO 3120 ELO achieved during the 1er Torneio Aberto de Xadrez Parque Aguas Claras.

      Read more about Alexandr Fier here.

      The only player keeping the pace of GM Alexandr Fier is the Cuban international master Martinez Duany. He has 6,5/7, GM Ikonnikov, GM Kunin and other strong players. His only disappointment was the draw with CM Zoldan Matteo in round 2, which keeps him half a point away from the top.

      GM Michal Krasenkow, GM Jaime Quartas, and GM Almeida Quintana have recovered from earlier wrong steps and are following with 6,0/7. Here are the full standings and top table results at Open Internacional de Sants.

      Leaders after 7 rounds:

      1 GM Fier Alexandr BRA 2604 7

      2 FM Martinez Duany Lelys Stanley CUB 2507 6.5

      3 GM Almeida Quintana Omar CUB 2524 6
      4 GM Krasenkow Michal POL 2631 6
      5 GM Cuartas Jaime Alexander COL 2521 6
      6 GM Karlsson Lars SWE 2468 6
      7 IM Fargere Francois FRA 2480 6

      8 GM Gonzalez Garcia Jose MEX 2509 5.5
      9 GM Ikonnikov Vyacheslav RUS 2556 5.5
      10 GM Grigoriants Sergey RUS 2564 5.5
      11 FM Strunski Andreas GER 2413 5.5
      12 IM Cruz Cristhian PER 2525 5.5
      13 IM Bergez Luc FRA 2371 5.5
      14 IM Vila Gazquez Xavier ESP 2457 5.5
      15 FM Sowray Peter J ENG 2335 5.5
      16 FM Bacallao Alonso Yusnel CUB 2467 5.5
      17 GM Lemos Damian ARG 2547 5.5

      Here is the full article.

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      9 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 3:54 am

        Damn! What’s he eating?

      2. Anonymous Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 8:45 am

        His prformance is undefined, not 3172 (or any other number).

      3. Anonymous Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 10:17 am

        3172? I don’t understand?

        When you go to official fide page for performance rating – http://ratings.fide.com/calculator_in.phtml , any performance number over 2800 is considered invalid entry.

      4. Anonymous Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 11:08 am

        This is what makes me mistrust ELO ratings. I don’t believe that Fier is playing at a level, even temporarily, that would be good enough to trounce Anand or Topalov.

      5. Anonymous Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 12:29 pm

        Fiel will be one of top 10 .. only time to it

      6. Anonymous Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 2:32 pm

        “This is what makes me mistrust ELO ratings. I don’t believe that Fier is playing at a level, even temporarily, that would be good enough to trounce Anand or Topalov.”

        Thats because you don’t understand the ELO system.

        P.S.: Even a random mover can win 7 games in a row. It’s highly unlikely, but possible.

      7. Lionel Davis Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 2:34 pm

        Wow! this young man running through the field! Sweet! I want printouts!

      8. KWRegan Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 3:21 pm

        There are several different systems for computing Elo performance ratings. The one that people from the 1970s–1990s are familiar with uses a simple linear function (based on a standard bell-curve distribution of performance variations), and cuts off so that the TPR can never be more than 400 pts. higher than the average of opponents’ ratings. The newer ones view players as a “population model” (which they are) based on a logistic distribution,and hence employ an exponential formula with no cutoff. The formulas approximate each other in most cases, but can diverge when a player has a perfect or non-perfect score.

        A quick rough computer check of his games tells me that he’s performing to 2600s standard—definitely not 2700s—which is in line with his current rating. His opponents have made some large errors, especially in the 19-move loss where Black seems to have a sizable edge around move 15.

      9. KWRegan Reply
        August 28, 2009 at 3:26 pm

        Oh hey Lionel man, I missed your comment under my browser window (mis-click didn’t scroll all the way down), so it’s a coincidence that you mentioned “printouts” while I already did my run this morning. But maybe I still get your brainwaves even though you’ve moved away from Buffalo :-). My point in relation to the Anand/Topalov comment, which I did see, is that intrinsically it’s not that standard yet.

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