billbrock said… “3.Re8# is kinda nice isn’t it? But note that 2.Ng7+ is double check: the king always has to move after a double check (so 2…Be7 is illegal). “
Hah! So most of the analysis so far is faulty due to missing the double-checkeroo. After: 1 Nxe6!! there are only two serious possible lines. One is: 1…c6! as it fixes both problems of black’s: it protects the queen which is hanging; and it gives the king an escape square to avoid the mate Re8++. So we get:
1 Nxe6!! c6 2 Nc7+ Kd8 3 QxQ PxQ 4 NxR and white is up the exchange.
The other try for black is:
1 Nxe6!! QxN 2 RxQ+ PxR 3 Qf3 followed by axb6 and White has queen and advanced passed pawn versus rook and two knights; black is horribly undeveloped with the exposed king and all three king-side pieces on their original squares, and pawn structure in shambles. White should win this from here.
“The question ‘Where should white retreat his queen’ was a bit misleading, wasn’t it?”
Bwahahahahah — reinforcing our normally complacent ways of seeing such positions and ignoring other possibilities. Ususally it’s our own limited thinking that deceives us in these situations, isn’t it?
Qg4 to protect the knight.
Nxe6 …..QxQ
Ng7+ Be7
NxQ then gxN
Bc4
Nxe6 …gxQ
Nxc7
Nxe6..also if fxN
QxQ!
Not Bc4 but Ba3 after
Nxe6 QxQ
Ng7 Be7 (Kd8 gets mated Re8+!)
Ba3 +++
3.Re8# is kinda nice isn’t it?
But note that 2.Ng7+ is double check: the king always has to move after a double check (so 2…Be7 is illegal).
The question “Where should white retreat his queen” was a bit misleading, wasn’t it?
billbrock said…
“3.Re8# is kinda nice isn’t it?
But note that 2.Ng7+ is double check: the king always has to move after a double check (so 2…Be7 is illegal). “
Hah! So most of the analysis so far is faulty due to missing the double-checkeroo. After:
1 Nxe6!! there are only two serious possible lines. One is:
1…c6! as it fixes both problems of black’s: it protects the queen which is hanging; and it gives the king an escape square to avoid the mate Re8++. So we get:
1 Nxe6!! c6
2 Nc7+ Kd8
3 QxQ PxQ
4 NxR and white is up the exchange.
The other try for black is:
1 Nxe6!! QxN
2 RxQ+ PxR
3 Qf3 followed by axb6 and White has queen and advanced passed pawn versus rook and two knights; black is horribly undeveloped with the exposed king and all three king-side pieces on their original squares, and pawn structure in shambles. White should win this from here.
“The question ‘Where should white retreat his queen’ was a bit misleading, wasn’t it?”
Bwahahahahah — reinforcing our normally complacent ways of seeing such positions and ignoring other possibilities. Ususally it’s our own limited thinking that deceives us in these situations, isn’t it?
1 Nxe6
1..Qxh5 2. Ng7+ Kd8 3. Re8#
1..gxh5 2. Nxc7+ followed by Nxd5
1..Qxe6 2. Rxe6+ fe 3. Qe5
1..fe 2. Qxd5
This is what I saw
Hope it’s close to the correct one.