This is the recent ACP Draw Survey. The survey was open to ACP Members + chess players having the FIDE title of International Master (IM or WIM) or International Grandmaster (GM or WGM). Here are the results:
A draw offer should be – # of votes – %
– allowed at any stage of the game (current FIDE rules) 52 – 40%
– allowed after 30 moves of the game are completed 23 – 18%
– allowed after 40 moves of the game are completed 24 – 18%
– allowed after 50 moves of the game are completed 5 – 4%
– not allowed at all (Corsican rule) 25 – 19%
– abstain 2 2%
A draw offer, at the stage where it is allowed, should imply a time penalty in the case it is rejected – # of votes – %
– yes 15 – 12%
– no 105 – 81%
– abstain 9 – 7%
Source: ACP
Chess Daily News from Susan Polgar
Susan, do you ever sleep?
What was your vote? You are a GM.
I you decide not to discuss, that is ok. I don’t mind. It is your blog.
If I was allowed to agree to a quick draw so I can leave early for a meal .. surely I would vote for quick draws to be allowed. (Its similar to asking employees to vote the number of working hours)
This question shouldnt be posted to the players but instead the sponsers, chess fans & tournament organizers.
I agree with anonymous #2. This question should only be posed to the major sponsors of chess.
The conclusion from the survey should be that most of the chess players that were asked do NOT support the current FIDE rule on draws but would prefer the ban of short draws. 58% supported to allow draws only after the 30th move.
>> This question should only be posed to the major sponsors of chess.
That way madness lies. If all decisions were decided by sponsors rather than players, all chess would probably be celebrity blitz in fancy dress. With ad breaks. And novelty Coke-bottle chess pieces.
I think that it would be in the “spirit of the chess game” interest to have a rule which tries to stop draws which are not based on objective consideration of the position but on calculation which has nothing to do with the game (ELO gain, tournament result…).
I know it’s naïve and idealistic. There are many other more realistic considerations than my “spirit of the chess game”…
I agree with Dedaalep: the result shows that a minority wants to keep the current system, while a majority wants to rule out some quick draws.
“Dedaalep said…
The conclusion from the survey should be that most of the chess players that were asked do NOT support the current FIDE rule on draws but would prefer the ban of short draws. 58% supported to allow draws only after the 30th move.”
I agree with your first conclusion, but how can you possibly draw that second conclusion? Where are you getting ‘58% supported to allow draws only after the 30th move.’ from?
It CLEARLY states that 40% are good with the current system; that 18% allow a draw offer after move 30. If you are adding the 40% and 18% to get your 58% support, your logic is way flawed.
Each category is exclusive of any other. Strangely, the numbers add up to 101.5%, so I assume they are rounding up on some of the categories reported.
The main point is that more of the professional players polled were in favor of changes than the status quo; that is, they favored some new limits on draws by agreement.
Those wanting a limit could not agree on where the limit should be, with the result that those favoring no change at all ended up a plurality. However, reporting this as “Chess players want the right to draw” is rather misleading. A better headline, not as catchy, would have been “Chess players want limits on the right to draw, but don’t agree on the details”.
mark, I don’t think dedaalep’s logic is flawed:
40% don’t want a change at all, and 2% abstain. The remaining want some change, either to ban draw offers before 30 moves, 40 moves, 50 moves or at all. A quick calculation suggests that 100% – 48% = 52% supports some such change. (Although rounding off errors mean that the numbers does not add up to 52% but to 53% or something.)
– allowed at any stage of the game (current FIDE rules) 52 – 40%
– allowed after 30 moves of the game are completed 23 – 18%
– allowed after 40 moves of the game are completed 24 – 18%
– allowed after 50 moves of the game are completed 5 – 4%
– not allowed at all (Corsican rule) 25 – 19%
– abstain 2 2%