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      Home  >  Daily News • General News • Major Tournaments  >  Robson wins PanAm Junior Championship by 1.5 point

      Robson wins PanAm Junior Championship by 1.5 point

      Grandmaster, PanAm, Ray Robson


      According to FIDE rule, as the winner of this event, Ray automatically receives a 9-round GM norm, which is his final norm.

      Final top 10 standings:

      1 USA IM ROBSON Ray USA 2527 8,0
      2 ARG TRISTAN Leonardo ARG 2412 6,5 0,5 33,0
      3 BRA GM DIAMANT Andre BRA 2526 6,5 0,5 31,0
      4 MEX IM IBARRA Chami Luis MEX 2393 6,0 1,0
      5 VEN PULVETT Daniel VEN 2237 6,0 0,0
      6 COL GALLEGO Andres COL 2404 5,5 0,0 31,5
      7 ECU FM MACIAS Bryan ECU 2363 5,5 0,0 29,5
      8 ECU DIAZ Ciro ECU 2323 5,5 0,0 29,5
      9 ARG KRYSA Leandro ARG 2284 5,5 0,0 27,0
      10 PER MAMANI Joan PER 2060 5,5 0,0 25,0

      Full standings: http://www.fideamerica.com/htmltonuke.php?filnavn=2009/octubre/panam_u20/panamericano_u20_absoluto.htm

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      10 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        October 13, 2009 at 10:04 pm

        Total dominance!

      2. Anonymous Reply
        October 13, 2009 at 10:07 pm

        Dear Rob, you’ve now joined the chess elite mob, all gms, not a myth, now with another one to share the bread with.

      3. Anonymous Reply
        October 13, 2009 at 10:54 pm

        So he would have got a GM norm whatever the quality of the opposition. Seems like an odd rule.

      4. Anonymous Reply
        October 14, 2009 at 2:47 am

        That FIDE rule should be amended with additional conditions on the strength of participants. This was such an easy GM norm for Ray, and this is unfair to others seeking GM norms. After all, what Ray got was not a boys’ GM norm, but the same men’s norm that other candidates will have to obtain thru much tougher requirements.

        In this tournament, IM Ray was the highest-ranked player. He faced 5 kids with ratings of 2300+ or lower, 2 with 2400s, and only 1 GM whose rating was even lower than Ray’s.

      5. Anonymous Reply
        October 14, 2009 at 3:14 am

        The 3116 performance rating that Ray obtained amazes me, since Magnus only got 3002 after dominating the world’s best at Nanjing. The formula must be reviewed.

        Under this formula, Magnus only needs to compete in patsy tournaments with 1 weak GM and a pair of IMs. If he dominates these events, which he obviously will everytime, he gets a 3100 rating. That will push him to Number 1 in the world in no time, without a sweat.

        I’m not criticizing Ray. It’s the rating formula that boggles me.

      6. Anonymous Reply
        October 14, 2009 at 12:26 pm

        ‘Seems like an odd rule.’

        There are many, many more simlar to this one, only you don’t know about them, as you’re not an active chess player. No need to know.

      7. Anonymous Reply
        October 14, 2009 at 12:35 pm

        You guys are all too busy playing chess on the Internet, you have no idea what’s going on in the real life.

      8. Lionel Davis Reply
        October 14, 2009 at 2:16 pm

        3116 Seriously? hehe. Congratulations to young Robson for achieving his goal of becoming a GM!!!

      9. Anonymous Reply
        October 14, 2009 at 3:27 pm

        Curious that ‘Anon’ says of the other ‘Anon’ (presumsbly no relation) that “you have no need to know”.

        Who are they to decide what people need to know: it’s not like we are talking about State Secrets here!

      10. Anonymous Reply
        October 14, 2009 at 6:05 pm

        ‘Who are they to decide what people need to know’

        The governing body of chess, of course. Same as government of a country.

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