Anonymous one, you missed at least one black defense. 1. -, Kf8 – black isn’t forced to capture d6. Then I see 2. Qxe5 with two threats: dxQc7 and mate on e8 (you’ve shown that black’s queen can’t defend against that mate because Qe8+ QxQ and RxQ#) so 2. -, fxe6 seems to be forced. Then 3. Dxf6 and next to dxc7 white also threats mate on h8.
One last variation which ends in a nice mate: 1. d6+ Kxd6 2. Qxe5+ Kc6 3. De8+ (good move!), Kc5!? (you didn’t notice that) 4. Rxe5+ Kd4 5. Rd5#
Seems, 1. d6+ is really strong, of course that move “jumps into your eyes”.
im going to go against some of the prevailing thought on here as usual and say theres no advantage to either black or white.not that anyone gives a crap about my opinion anyways. theres always some hecklers trying to attack my variations.
I just took a quick look, and I would probably try Qxe5+ removing the fork on the queen and rook, and forcing a queen trade (if queen doesn’t take, it’s mate) and win a pawn–and after rook takes queen (Rxe5) if ..Kd6, Ng4 protecting the rook. You tell me what comes next. I’m just a beginner.
What about g5 (after Ng4) winning the white bishop? White is three free pawns versus one knight – that’s an interesting endgame I think but I can’t say if white has an (real!?) advantage… Probably the fastness of black on the queenside decides….
I should have taken a closer look or probably I should even have taken a chess board. I just tried to play h7-h5 to attack the knight (what doesn’t win because the rook can capture h5 – in the end I saw that ;)). Thanks Anandh, of course black can directly capture the knight to win a hole figure…..
Ah, okay–Loss of knight–After loss of the knight, what if instead of 4. hxg4 Kxe5 we have 4. Be7+ Kxe5 5. hxg4 ?? Knight still lost, but bishop is out?
I would take White’s position.
1 d6+ looks promising.
1 … Qxd6
2 Ne4+ f6
3 Nxd6 Ne3
4 Nxb7
with a piece for a pawn.
1 …Nxd6
2 Qxe5+ Kd8 (Kf8 will end the same)
3 Qe8+ Nxe8
4 Rxe8 mate.
1 …Kxd6
2 Qxe5+ Kc6
3 Qe8+ Kd6
4 g4
with Bg3 looming.
jcheyne
d6+ and then removing the knight to fork the queen seems like a plan on first glance…
Anonymous one, you missed at least one black defense.
1. -, Kf8 – black isn’t forced to capture d6.
Then I see 2. Qxe5 with two threats:
dxQc7 and mate on e8 (you’ve shown that black’s queen can’t defend against that mate because Qe8+ QxQ and RxQ#) so 2. -, fxe6 seems to be forced.
Then 3. Dxf6 and next to dxc7 white also threats mate on h8.
One last variation which ends in a nice mate:
1. d6+ Kxd6 2. Qxe5+ Kc6 3. De8+ (good move!), Kc5!? (you didn’t notice that) 4. Rxe5+ Kd4 5. Rd5#
Seems, 1. d6+ is really strong, of course that move “jumps into your eyes”.
Jochen
im going to go against some of the prevailing thought on here as usual and say theres no advantage to either black or white.not that anyone gives a crap about my opinion anyways. theres always some hecklers trying to attack my variations.
d6 Qxd6
Ne4+ g5
Nxd6 Nxe3
Nxb7 Nc2
Rxe5 Kf6
Rc5 gxh4
1. d6+ Qxd6
2. Ne4+ g5
3. Bxg5+! could be interesting
3. .. hxg5??
4. Qxg5+ followed with Nxd6
1. d6+ Qxd6
2. Ne4+ g5
3. Bxg5+ Ke6
4. Nxd6 Nxe3
5. Bxe3 Nxd6
6. Bxh4 and white has one pawn up.
Hi,
I just took a quick look, and I
would probably try Qxe5+ removing
the fork on the queen and rook, and
forcing a queen trade (if queen
doesn’t take, it’s mate) and win a
pawn–and after rook takes queen
(Rxe5) if ..Kd6, Ng4 protecting the
rook. You tell me what comes next.
I’m just a beginner.
Anton
Hello Anton,
What about g5 (after Ng4) winning the white bishop?
White is three free pawns versus one knight – that’s an interesting endgame I think but I can’t say if white has an (real!?) advantage…
Probably the fastness of black on the queenside decides….
Jochen
Hi Anton,
1. Qxe5+ Qce5
2. Rxe5+ Kd6
3. Ng4 Rxg4
4. hxg4 Kxe5 winning the Knight. And the bishop is more or less trapped.
– P. Anandh
I should have taken a closer look or probably I should even have taken a chess board. I just tried to play h7-h5 to attack the knight (what doesn’t win because the rook can capture h5 – in the end I saw that ;)).
Thanks Anandh, of course black can directly capture the knight to win a hole figure…..
So forget my post above, Anton!
Hi Anandh,
Ah, okay–Loss of knight–After
loss of the knight, what if instead
of
4. hxg4 Kxe5
we have
4. Be7+ Kxe5
5. hxg4
??
Knight still lost, but bishop is
out?
Anton