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      Chess endgame, Puzzle Solving


      White to move. Is this a draw or win for White?

      3k4/1p6/pP6/3K4/P7/8/8/8 w – – 0 0

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      20 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 2:36 pm

        I think it’s a win for white.

        1.Kd6 and when the black king is in the corner(a8)the king hasn’t any legal moves.
        Black has to play a5 and white will go and pick it up and win the game.

      2. ranjeet walunj Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 2:37 pm

        I think its a dead draw.

        (Provided black does not throw it away)

      3. Asdracles Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 2:45 pm

        1.Kd6 Kc8 2.Ke7 Kb8 3.Kd8 Ka8 4.Kc8 a5 5.Kd7 Kb8 6.Kd6 Kc8 7.Kc5 Kd7 8.Kb5 Kd6 9.Kxa5 Kc5!

        Life is not so easy!

      4. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 2:54 pm

        I think it’s a draw. When white picks up a5 pawn, black has time to play Kc6/c5

      5. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 3:07 pm

        1.Kd6 Kc8 2.Ke7 Kb8 3.Kd8 Ka8 and the 4.Kc7 not 4.Kc8

        Now black king can’t come to c5.

      6. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 3:09 pm

        White can move its king to d6 and following up with a series of moves(ke7,kd8…) can force the black king to a8 after which black has no choice but to advance its pawn on a6 to a5. Ofcourse , black can advance the pawn earlier (eventually, it has to happen). After the pawn advance, white can retreat its king to take the pawn on a5.
        Now is the interesting part. To make progress further, white has to advance its a4 pawn to a6 where black can easily take the pawn bxa6 followed by white’s move kxa6. Now black has a strong threat of STALEMATE and the game is a DRAW.

      7. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 3:33 pm

        After 1. Kd6 black can simply play a5, and then it’s easy to see that white can’t take on a5 without allowing black king to c5 square.

      8. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 3:46 pm

        It’s a draw. The point is Black king can occupy the C5 or C6 square and either White is stalemated or he can not proceed without exchanging all pawns.
        Alimuzzaman

      9. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 3:58 pm

        STALEMATE is right. One way or the other.

        1. Ke6 Ke8 2. Kd6 Kd8 3. a5 Kc8 4. Ke7 Kb8 5. Kd7 Ka8 6. Kc7 ..and Black is stalemated

        1. Kd6 a5! 2. Kc5 Kd7 3. Kb5 Kd6 4. Kxa5 Kc5 ..and White is stalemated

        Michael Langer
        Austin, Texas

      10. Thiago Fetter Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 4:51 pm

        BRANCAS VENCEM!!!

        Rei branco vai a d6, pretas respondem a5. Aí começam as brancas a empurrar o rei preto a a8. Quando o rei preto estiver em a8, o rei branco estará em d8, lance das brancas.

        É A HORA DE AS BRANCAS TRIANGULAREM, jogando Ke7-Kd7.

        Então as pretas estarão com o rei em a8, e as brancas com o rei em d7 (e não d8!!), lance das brancas.

        É a hora de ir pegar o peão de a5 e vencer o jogo.

        Thiago Fetter da Silva
        Porto Alegre-RS

      11. senthil.c.kumaran@gmail.com (செந்தில் குமரன்) Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 5:12 pm

        As long as black has the last rank and even if white takes a pawn and exchanges one of the pawns wouldn’t black still manage a draw?

      12. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 5:20 pm

        Portuguese isn’t one of my better languages — am I reading this correctly as a claim that White wins by triangulating his king on d7 and e7, but not d8?

        Earlier posters have it right — Black draws without a lot of trouble. Maybe the easiest way to see this is that sooner or later, somebody is going to have to advance his a-pawn.

        — If White plays a4-a5, Black simply scurries into the corner. White has no way to evict the Black king from a8-b8;

        — If Black plays a6-a5, it’s true that White can now march his king over and capture the a-pawn. But to no avail: Black’s king still has time to reach c6. Now White’s only legal move is Ka5-b4, but Black simply captures the pawn on b6 and draws without any fuss.

      13. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 5:28 pm

        Looks like a draw to me.

        1. Kd6 a5 and the black king comes to c5 as white takes on a5

        2. Ke6 Ke8 is no progress for white

        The point is that black never need allow white to corner him on a8

        Yancey

      14. Asdracles Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 5:40 pm

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      15. Asdracles Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 5:48 pm

        I deleted by accident. Brazilian friend is not right.

        Even with the extra tempo for white, black will draw.

        When White captures a5, as last anonymous says, is enough for Black to play Kc6, and not only the Kc5 stalemate trick.

        So draw

      16. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 5:49 pm

        To Asdracles:
        9. .. Kb8
        10. Kc5 Kc8
        11. Kb5 Kd7
        12. Kxa5 Kc6
        13. Kb4 Kxb6

        It’s a draw.

      17. Mikael Svensson Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 6:24 pm

        The thing is, even if White captures the black pawn and advances his own a-pawn, then when the white pawn reaches a6, black will never take it, he will simply move between a8 and b8. If white takes the black pawn a6xb7 then black takes back and it’s a draw. If black king is on b8 and white moves a6-a7 check, then black plays Ka8 with inevitable stalemate. If black king is already on a8 and white plays a6-a7 then it’s stalemate.

        So again, it doesn’t even matter if white can take black’s pawn and get away with it. Black simply has to stay on a8-b8 for the rest of the game and never take the white pawn when it reaches a6 and it will be a draw.

      18. Ruben Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 7:24 pm

        A win, black has to go to a8, and then white goes Kc7. black is stalemated and the needs to push his pawn to a5. Then white can pick up the pawn and win the ending

      19. Ruben Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 7:27 pm

        excuze-moi. Black king will get to c6 in time and White will need to play Kb4 and black picks up the b6 pawn
        so that makes its a draw.

      20. Anonymous Reply
        October 22, 2008 at 11:24 pm

        Interesting ! White plays first OR Black plays first (correctly). Result DRAW or STALEMATE . From this position I believe neither can win , but I am open to correction .

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