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      Home  >  Chess Improvement • General News  >  Gashimov tops tie-breaks, Kamsky 9th

      Gashimov tops tie-breaks, Kamsky 9th

      Baku, Grand Prix


      Even though the Gashimov, Wang Yue and Carlsen shared first place, Gashimov has the best tie-breaks according to the official FIDE Grand Prix site. Carlsen once again proved that he IS the real deal. What is the most surprising outcome of this tournament?

      – Carlsen making a big come back to share 1st place?
      – Wang Yue and Gashimov tying for first without losing a single game?
      – Radjabov, Kamsky and Karjakin finishing in 8th, 9th and 10th place respectively?

      Final Baku Grand Prix Standings:

      Rank – Name – Rating – Country – Points – Tie-Breaks – Performance

      1 Gashimov Vugar 2679 AZE 8 51.50 2807
      2 Wang Yue 2689 CHN 8 50.50 2806
      3 Carlsen Magnus 2765 NOR 8 49.00 2801

      4 Mamedyarov Shakhriyar 2752 AZE 7½ 48.75 2772
      5 Grischuk Alexander 2716 RUS 7½ 45.75 2774

      6 Adams Michael 2729 ENG 6½ 41.00 2716
      7 Svidler Peter 2746 RUS 6½ 39.50 2715

      8 Radjabov Teimour 2751 AZE 6 38.50 2686
      9 Kamsky Gata 2726 USA 6 38.00 2688
      10 Karjakin Sergey 2732 UKR 6 37.25 2687

      11 Cheparinov Ivan 2695 BUL 5½ 35.75 2662
      12 Navara David 2672 CZE 5½ 35.25 2664

      13 Bacrot Etienne 2705 FRA 5 32.50 2631
      14 Inarkiev Ernesto 2684 RUS 5 32.25 2633

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      31 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 2:49 pm

        There isn’t tie-breaks in FIDE Grand Prix:

        http://grandprix.fide.com/regulations.html

        Congrats to the winners!

      2. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 2:50 pm

        yeah. they all splut prices.

      3. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 2:57 pm

        Biggest surprise = Carlsen, the highest-rated player, failed to win outright.

      4. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 3:10 pm

        Anonymous said…
        Biggest surprise = Carlsen, the highest-rated player, failed to win outright.

        Monday, May 5, 2008 9:57:00 AM CDT

        Is that suppose to be a joke?

      5. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 3:35 pm

        Bacrot in the basement again.

      6. SEO Company Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 3:39 pm

        Carlsen is #4 now with 2768 and with his win today he that syhould give him 2770. Now the next one for him to over take is Morozevich at 2774.

        All according to frogberts live top list.

        http://heim.ifi.uio.no/~ha/toplist.php

      7. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 3:56 pm

        Carlsen won’t have to fight to take over Morozevich’s spot.

        Morozevich just needs to play in a tournament with SuperGMs and he will cede the position himself to Carlsen.

      8. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 4:04 pm

        How much was the first prize?

        Claudia
        womancandidatemaster.blogspot.com

      9. Jud McCranie Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 4:18 pm

        It is a good thing that they didn’t allow draws by agreement, otherwise there would have been a lot of draws. As a result, only 53 of the 91 games were draws, only 58.2%. A great showing for the rule to not allow draws by agreement!

      10. kingscrusher Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 4:18 pm

        Hi Susan

        Just a quick note to let you know I video annotated one of your brilliant games on youtube:

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBYzOq5CFqw

        Best wishes
        Tryfon

      11. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 4:26 pm

        SB tie-break is used only for distributing trophies, but GP points and prize money is shared equally. So Gashimov receives the throphy for 1st place, Wang for 2nd and Carlsen for 3rd place, but they all receive same amount of GP points and same prize money.

      12. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 4:37 pm

        Anonymous said…
        How much was the first prize?

        Claudia
        womancandidatemaster.blogspot.com

        Monday, May 5, 2008 11:04:00 AM CDT

        They each get about 24000 Euros.

      13. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 4:38 pm

        Glad to see Gata put in his place. Should be what to expect when he plays Topalov and LOSES.

      14. Claudia 4th grade Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 5:00 pm

        ok, so the 3 split the 24000 euros? or like carlsen get the money for 3rd prize?

        claudia

        womancandidatemaster.blogspot.com

      15. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 5:05 pm

        Claudia why don’t you just visit the official tournament site and read it all from there?

      16. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 5:13 pm

        Claudia 4th grade said…
        ok, so the 3 split the 24000 euros? or like carlsen get the money for 3rd prize?

        claudia

        womancandidatemaster.blogspot.com

        Monday, May 5, 2008 12:00:00 PM CDT

        No they each get 24000 Euros, Last place get about 4250 Euros.

      17. chess log Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 5:43 pm

        Gata: the sorrow of American Chess…

      18. chesss44 Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 5:57 pm

        Agree entirely with jud mccranie about no-draw rule. The result was a much more fighting tournament than usual, very good to see. FIDE actually did something right for once. This rule should apply for all tournaments, matches and team events.

        The next thing they should do is get rid of the ridiculous stalemate rule. The number of endings that arose that would and “should” have been wins but became draws was seriously significant.

        Carlsen’s result is adequate/good, but for a long time didn’t look as though it would be.
        Yes, he will soon be ahead of Morozevich in the ratings.

        The biggest surprise, of course, is Wang Yue and Gashimov tying for first. A low winning percentage, though.

        Kamsky has demonstrated that he is not at this stage serious World Championship material and that his comeback is not entirely on track. A pretty good example of how stupid and random the FIDE knockout qualifiers are. Such a pity that Carlsen didn’t win that ‘qualifier’. He would be odds-on to beat Topalov.

        As for the rest, they all gave a pretty good demonstration as to why they are not in the top echelon.
        The World Champion will be one of Anand, Kramnik, Carlsen, Aronian, Topalov for quite some time to come (unless Kasparov returns).

      19. Claudia 4th grade Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 5:59 pm

        anon 12:13 Thanks for your kindness in answering my question on the prize money.

        🙂

        Claudia

      20. Jud McCranie Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 6:09 pm

        I was being sarcastic about the draw rule! Having 58+ percent draws proves that the “no agreed draws” rule does NOT work. I looked at several of the draws, and there are so many threefold repetion draws that they might have been manufactured.

      21. chesss44 Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 6:39 pm

        Oh, ok.

        Well 58% is a lot better than the normal something like 70%.
        And quite a few of them were fighting draws.

        I think that some of the threefold repetition draws were manufactured, too.
        This is another draw rule that should be done away with.
        Then the no-agreed draw rule would have real teeth.

      22. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 7:44 pm

        Claudia,

        I didn’t say

        “Claudia why don’t you just visit the official tournament site and read it all from there?”

        because I am mean and don’t want to help you, but because I live by the rule

        “Give man a fish and he will be fed for a day. Teach man how to fish and he will be fed for a lifetime.”

        You can find all your answers about the whole Grand Prix and how the final world championship challenger will be decided on the official sites.

        It just bugs me that people are so uninformed, but they don’t go to the official sites where everything is explained. For example, I see many people asking why kamsky is playing in Grand Prix. Well, why wouldn’t he??? This Grand Prix is all about the NEXT 2008-2010 WCC cycle. So unless Kamsky becomes World champion (or wins the 2009 World cup) he would be out of the next cycle and would have to wait for the new 2010-2012 cycle.
        So why not play the Grand Prix and see how the matches go?

        From three players that didn’t want to participate (Anand, Kramnik and Topalov) at least two of them will regret their decission. Unless they will win the 2009 World cup they are out of the cycle. Same goes for Shirov, Morozevich and Judit Polgar. World cup 2009 is their only chance or they will just have to wait.

      23. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 7:52 pm

        El profesor,

        Be careful about Sam Sloan. He’s a convicted felon for kidnapping. He also bragged about having sexual relations with girls under 16. Be careful with your daughter. GM Polgar also spoke out against this felon.

        You will ruin your daughter’s reputation by just corresponding with him. Be smart.

        USCF member

      24. Jud McCranie Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 7:54 pm

        No, the normal draw rate among players over 2500 is 55%, according to New in Chess. So the percentage of draws was higher – not lower.

        There is nothing wrong with the theefold or stalemate rules either, except perhaps it should be fourfold or fivefold.

        I think there were a lot of fighting games not because of that rule but because only the winner of the Grand Prix series goes on. In the days of the Interzonal, the top six players advanced to the knockouts. In this series, only the top one advances to the knockouts.

      25. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 8:06 pm

        chesss44 said…

        Do you realize you are picking on a 10 year old? 🙂

      26. Anonymous Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 8:21 pm

        Who?

      27. chesss44 Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 10:07 pm

        I haven’t seen that New In Chess article, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. (Though it’s not the impression I get from looking at some of the crosstables, though these would be more over 2700 rather than 2500 players).

        However, I saw very few 20-move or so draws at Baku – unlike most tournaments.

        Sponsors should be able to be guaranteed proper fighting chess. Might actually get more of them, then, and bigger prizes. Wow, just think about that, pretty obvious really…
        Why should players get paid if they are not going to play?

        I really do not understand this mentality of not wanting to cut down on fightless draws and expand the possibilities of being able to create a winning imbalance in chess.

        Unless the draw favouring people themselves like to take a lot of quickie draws…
        Why go to the trouble of playing the game then? It’s supposed to be fun, isn’t it? How ridiculous to go to all the trouble, time and expense to play in a tournament only to agree a whole lot of quickie draws. Is the game that much of a torture? If so, it might be advisable to adopt another hobby.
        Or perhaps they like to ‘cheat’ on their fellow competitors by taking a rest while they are fighting hard.

        (I don’t believe you are 10 years old by the way…)

      28. claudia 4th grader Reply
        May 5, 2008 at 11:11 pm

        I didnt think you were being mean. Most people in here are and always say mean things. Its a wonder anybody wants to play chess. I think this is not a place for kids. People here are mean to Susan and to other people that I dont even know who they are. Any question asked people are rude, well not all. Im going back to my blog and stay their where no one will be mean.

        Claudia

      29. Jud McCranie Reply
        May 6, 2008 at 1:13 am

        Sorry, I said “New in Chess”, it should have been “The Week in Chess”.

      30. grundy the troll eater Reply
        May 7, 2008 at 2:51 am

        “claudia 4th grader said…
        I didnt think you were being mean. Most people in here are and always say mean things. Its a wonder anybody wants to play chess. I think this is not a place for kids. People here are mean to Susan and to other people that I dont even know who they are. Any question asked people are rude, well not all. Im going back to my blog and stay their where no one will be mean.

        Claudia”

        Be strong Claudia! When you go to 5th grade next year, your education leel will be equal to these mean people in Susan’s blog. I even wonder why they allow people to communicae in here if they cannot even be civil? I only read the articles!

        Keep smiling chess princess!

        Your friend Grundy

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