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      Home  >  Daily News  >  Hope or hopeless?

      Hope or hopeless?

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      This was a game by my son Tommy. Tommy is Black and it is Black to move. How should Tommy proceed? Does Black have a serious attack?
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      21 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 2:23 am

        How about

        1. . . . Rd8 d3
        2. Qb4 Rxe3
        3. Rxe3 Qxe3+

      2. Joshua Green Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 2:28 am

        1. … R8d2! looks pretty good.

      3. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 2:41 am

        R8d2 indeed. Black has no chance after this move.

      4. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 2:42 am

        Correction: meant to say white has no chance.

      5. Jose A Delgado Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 2:42 am

        It is late for me and i dont want to analyse in deep…but i agree with Joshua:if R8d2 then white must sacrifice the queen with Qxd2 and the endgame Q+P against R+B with the board full of pawns(possible weak points) is a clear victory for black.

      6. pedro Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 2:44 am

        LIKE JOSHUA GREEN IS IS NICE AND CORRECT. WINING. IF QD2 RD2 RD2 QE1 CHECK AND QUEEN AGAINST BISHOP-
        IF RD7 RE8 MATE

      7. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 3:38 am

        3r2k1/pp3p1p/6p1/1PP5/P3p3/2Q1P1qP/4R1B1/3rR1K1 b – – 0 1

        flipping the board suddenly to the black side confuses me.

      8. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 3:48 am

        Rd2 Qxd2
        Rxd2 Rxd2
        Qe3+ Qh1
        Qxd2

        your up a queen

        Rd2 Rxd1
        Rxd1+ Re1
        Rxe1+ Qxe1
        Qxe1+

        your up a queen

        Rd2 Rxd2
        Rxe3+ Qxe3
        Qxe3 mate

        wolverine

      9. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 3:51 am

        Rd2 Qxd2
        Rxd2 Rxd2
        Qe3+ Kh1
        Qxd2

        your up a queen

        Rd2 Rxd1
        Rxd1+ Re1
        Rxe1+ Qxe1
        Qxe1+

        your up a queen

        Rd2 Rxd2
        Rxe3 mate

        made a couple corrections

        wolverine

      10. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 3:56 am

        My first try is

        1. …. R8d3
        2. Qb4 Rxe3
        3. Rxe3 Qxe3

        but it seems to dead end with Kf1 because the queen is still protecting the rook on e1.

        Susan please tell us what Tommy played. How did he do overall in the tournament. He is learning so fast.

        I am now looking at R8d2 and that is a sophisticated complex move. Wow if Tommy got that one then he is doing super well. I would never have come up with that move in a game.

      11. tim Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 4:06 am

        r8d2 doesn’t qc1 hold?

      12. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 4:18 am

        Rd2 Qc1
        Rxc1 Rxc1
        Rxe2

        Now its queen rook versus rook. no that doesnt work

        wolverine

      13. tim Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 4:22 am

        i was moving the other rook in my head, having the diagram from the black side is my excuse!

      14. Anonymous Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 4:45 am

        Rd2 Qxd2
        Rxd2 Rxd2
        Qe1+ Kh1
        Qxd2

        your up a queen

        Rd2 Rxd1
        Rxd1+ Re1
        Rxe1+ Qxe1
        Qxe1+

        your up a queen

        Rd2 Rxd2
        Rxe1 mate

        does anyone know how to delete previous posts. my spelling is so bad i need to delete typing errors.

        wolverine

      15. Ravi Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 1:31 pm

        On Rd2, doesn’t Kf1 give some chances to White? It drops the Bishop but that leads to equality, at least piece-wise. White loses the h pawn and is down two pawns after:

        1 …, R8d2
        2 Kf1, Rxc2
        3 Kxc2, Rxd1+
        4 Qxd1, Qxg2+
        5 Any, Qxh3

        White still wins, but it is not a catastrophic loss of material for Black. There is some counterplay with the three White pawns on a,b and c files vs the two Black on a and b files.

        Ravi

      16. Ravi Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 1:33 pm

        Oops.

        The correct moves should be: (with the exchange of Rooks on e2 (not c2)

        1 …, R8d2
        2 Kf1, Rxe2
        3 Kxe2, Rxd1+
        4 Qxd1, Qxg2+
        5 Any, Qxh3

      17. Rainer Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 1:47 pm

        Kf1 does not succeed.

        1. … R8d2
        2. Kf1 Rxe1+
        3. Rxe1 Qf2#

      18. Rainer Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 1:59 pm

        But I think

        1. … R8d2
        2. Qxd2 Rxd2
        3. Kf1

        could be an option for White.
        Especially with the c5 pawn.

      19. Arne Vogel Reply
        January 8, 2007 at 8:38 pm

        1. … R8d2
        2. Qxd2 Rxd2
        3. Kf1 Rxe2
        4. Rxe2 f5

        And now white has to fight the black queen with a rook and a trapped bishop.

      20. Joshua Green Reply
        January 9, 2007 at 1:24 am

        1. … R8d2! 2. Kf1 Rxe1+ 3. Qxe1 would be strong for White if it weren’t illegal–the bRd2 blocks the wQ’s access to e1.
        3. Rxe1 Qf2 is checkmate, as Kh2 (which I assume is what anonymous meant) is illegal–the wK is on f1. 3. … Qxg2# is also good.

      21. Antonio Cerina Reply
        January 9, 2007 at 10:12 pm

        Dear Susan!

        For me too the best move for Tommy is 1…R8d2!(1…T8d2!,in Italian).After this move White is hopeless.
        Many many kisses to you your family Tommy and Leam.
        Antonio

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