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      Home  >  Chess Improvement • Daily News  >  Magnus’ charge to 2800

      Magnus’ charge to 2800

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      After a hot start in Nanjing, Magnus Carlsen is making a serious charge toward 2800. It is not a question if he will eventually be #1. The only question is when.

      Rank Name Rating Change # games
      01 Topalov 2806,4 -6,6 2
      02 Anand 2788,0 0 0
      03 Aronian 2784,2 +11,2 6
      04 Carlsen 2782,5 +10,5 2
      05 Kramnik 2772,0 0 0
      06 Leko 2757,0 -5 2
      07 Radjabov 2756,8 -0,2 2
      08 Ivanchuk 2756,0 0 0
      09 Gelfand 2752,9 -3,1 5
      10 Morozevich 2750,0 0 0
      11 Gashimov 2748,0 +8 5
      12 Jakovenko 2742,9 +0,9 2
      13 Ponomariov 2738,5 -2,5 5
      14 Wang Yue 2738,4 +2,4 21
      15 Svidler 2738,0 -3 10
      16 Grischuk 2733,8 +0,8 6
      17 Shirov 2726,0 -4 11
      18 Alekseev 2725,0 0 0
      19 Karjakin 2724,0 +2 6
      20 Eljanov 2719,3 +2,3 9
      21 Dominguez 2719,0 0 0
      22 Vachier-Lagrave 2718,0 0 0
      23 Movsesian 2717,3 +6,3 9
      24 Mamedyarov 2715,5 -5,5 19
      25 Nakamura 2712,8 -22,2 10
      26 Wang Hao 2709,7 +19,7 16
      27 Malakhov 2708,3 -6,7 22
      28 Navara 2707,4 +15,4 9
      29 Short 2706,7 +0,7 16
      30 Tomashevsky 2705,8 +17,8 16
      31 Kasimdzhanov 2705,2 +3,2 5
      32 Bacrot 2704,3 -4,7 20
      33 Almasi 2703,0 +18 10

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      17 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 5:58 pm

        ” It is not a question if he will eventually be #1. The only question is when.”

        May I predict – never!? I don’t see the other players allowing him to cross 2800 and be #1. Topalov did it thanks to his Manager.

        Of course, if may players retire, like Kasparov, then he will have his chance.

      2. Lionel Davis Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 6:28 pm

        Wow! this is funny Vishy world champ and they wanna call someone else no.1 with the old EGO list system! hehehe.

      3. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 7:16 pm

        The really compelling scenario for chess is not about Magnus. It’s about a Vishy vs. Wang Yue matchup for the world title, if it were to ever happen. The two largest population centers in the world, with representatives battling against one another? It might be the biggest boon for chess’ popularity since Fischer.

      4. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 8:10 pm

        Inflation of elo will help many players go over 2800 soon, in about seven months. There is no prevention of it.

      5. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 8:13 pm

        “May I predict – never!? I don’t see the other players allowing him to cross 2800 and be #1”

        So you think Magnus will get worse? Get real:

        a) Magnus has turned pro. He can now concentrate fully on the game.

        b) He’s been coached by Kasparov. This will improve his opening play and make him better prepared. He’ll also benefit from Kasparov’s valuable experience.

        c) Magnus is still young: He’ll improve as he gains more experience.

        Trust me, it IS only a matter of time before he crosses the 2800 barrier.

      6. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 8:53 pm

        a) Magnus has turned pro. He can now concentrate fully on the game.

        Others are pros, too. I really doubt if Magnus spent more than a few hours on other school work than chess in past years. Naka can afford partying and still play good on the other hand.

        b) He’s been coached by Kasparov. This will improve his opening play and make him better prepared. He’ll also benefit from Kasparov’s valuable experience.

        The others have been coached by others, who have good opening theories, too, certainly enough to draw and win rating points when play against Magnis. Magnus will win a few games, and they will adapt, like viruses do. He can’t afford to pay Kasparov too long.

        c) Magnus is still young: He’ll improve as he gains more experience.

        This is true. Problem big one is he is alone. He will face the same problems as Fischer did with the Russians, and he plays in China, he will face the same problems everyone else does.

      7. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 8:55 pm

        Chess will be solved by computers in next 10-20 years. Then its bye bye to all players of it.

      8. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 9:00 pm

        I can tell you I have been predicting chess happenings the last thirty years and I have never made a mistake. Magnus Carlsen will top the rating chart in 2010 and become world champion if he continues to work with Garik for at least one year more.

        Chess Nostradamus

      9. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 9:02 pm

        ‘Wow! this is funny Vishy world champ and they wanna call someone else no.1’

        Vishy is world champ, but he is not the strongest chess player. That’s the one with the biggest rating! Go Topalov!!!!!!!!!!!!

      10. Anonymous Reply
        September 30, 2009 at 10:48 pm

        > Others are pros, too. I really
        > doubt if Magnus spent more than a
        > few hours on other school work
        > than chess in past years.

        A few hours in past years?! I’m afraid you have no idea what you’re talking about. Like I said, things are different when you’re a pro: You can devote more time to your work. Magnus’s decision to become a pro also indicates that he’s strongly motivated. He’s stated that he wants to become number one. In order to reach this goal he has to get even better.

        > Naka can afford partying and still
        > play good on the other hand.

        Well, Naka has never even approached 2800. It remains to be seen if he can even keep his rating above 2700, while Magnus has been a solid 2750+ rated player for a while now. You can’t compare him to Magnus, he’s simply not that talented.

        > The others have been coached by
        > others, who have good opening
        > theories, too, …

        Oh yes, I’m sure the “others” you’re talking about have a lot more experience and expertise than Garry Kasparov 😉 I mean, Garry was only a world champion and the highest rated player for many years. Seriously: You make it sound like you have no idea who Kasparov is.

        > He can’t afford to pay Kasparov
        > too long.

        Of course Kasparov won’t coach Magnus forever, but that doesn’t mean Magnus will forget everything he’s learned when their partnership is over. Even if their partnership ends this year, Magnus will still have benefitted from their cooperation. Or perhaps you believe that Garry will try to sabotage Magnus’s play?

        > This is true. Problem big one is
        > he is alone.

        He’s not alone: He’s being coached by Kasparov. He’s always had coaches, chess-playing friends or other advisors available.

        > He will face the
        > same problems as Fischer did
        > with the Russians, and he plays
        > in China, he will face the same
        > problems everyone else does.

        What problems are you talking about and what have these problems to do with the fact that Magnus is still young and has a lot of time to get even better? It’d have been different if Magnus was 40 years old and past his prime.

      11. Anonymous Reply
        October 1, 2009 at 12:29 am

        “Vishy is world champ, but he is not the strongest chess player. That’s the one with the biggest rating!”

        Huh? I’ve re-read that over and over…it makes less sense each time. The one who holds the gold is the strongest, the one who can perform under pressure and win when the title is at stake. That’s strength. Strength isn’t a number, it’s performance.

      12. Anonymous Reply
        October 1, 2009 at 6:20 am

        ‘Strength isn’t a number, it’s performance.’

        In chess – strength is the number ONLY. You can become champion by accident. If Anand and Topalov play an open tournament Anand would be seeded below him. Why? Because Topalov is stronger. Not maybe than him, but certainly when compared to playign all others.

      13. Anonymous Reply
        October 1, 2009 at 8:01 am

        ‘Strength isn’t a number, it’s performance.’

        My rating is bigger than yours, so I am right. Chess strength is number what you have beside your name.

      14. Anonymous Reply
        October 1, 2009 at 10:56 am

        “In chess – strength is the number ONLY. You can become champion by accident.”

        Really?! Cool! So I can be a World Champ :-))

      15. Anonymous Reply
        October 1, 2009 at 11:49 am

        ‘So I can be a World Champ :-))’

        You can’t become champion, because you are a blogger, but Khalifman, Ponomariov and Kasimdzanov can become by a series of accidents, and already have been.

        Fortunately, thank heavens, there is rating to show who is who in chess.

      16. Anonymous Reply
        October 1, 2009 at 1:14 pm

        You forgot Kramnik. He bacame champion only by accident too.

      17. Anonymous Reply
        October 1, 2009 at 5:56 pm

        Yeah. Kramnik accidently beat Kasparov, and Kasparov accidently failed to win a single game! How careless!

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