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      Home  >  Daily News • General News  >  Nanjing out, Elista in! Why?

      Nanjing out, Elista in! Why?

      Elista, FIDE, Nanjing, Rating system


      Our friends from ChessToday.net have just pointed out something interesting. Here is the comment from GM Golubev:

      New FIDE Ratings
      by GM Mikhail Golubev

      On the 30th December FIDE published new ratings. It is hard to believe, but Nanjing (Category 21) was not counted, while Elista (Category 19), which finished later, was counted.

      The explanation from the yesterday’s FIDE article is: “His (Topalov’s) victory in the Pearl Springs tournament in Nanjing, China, which ended 22nd December, will be rated for April 2009, according to FIDE regulations.”

      But who writes these terrible regulations, one may ask once again.

      And why not have a rule say, that all events with the participation of the world’s top 10 players are counted as operatively as possible?

      The top of the rating list now looks as follows (with the names of Nanjing participants in bold):

      1. Topalov 2796
      2. Anand 2791
      3. Ivanchuk 2779
      4. Carlsen 2776
      5. Morozevich 2771
      6. Radjabov 2761
      7. Jakovenko 2760
      8. Kramnik 2759
      9. Leko 2751
      10. Movsesian 2751
      11. Aronian 2750

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      13 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 2:28 pm

        Russian intrigue 🙂 ?

      2. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 3:16 pm

        It was known in advance that Nanjing won’t be rated and Elista will be, so what gives?

        You criticise FIDE when they brake rules and you criticise FIDE when they follow the rules.

      3. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 3:47 pm

        Well, there is no doubt aht FIDE is breaking rules all the time. And only because they stated in advance that Elista would be rated but Nanjing not does not make it right – there simply is no reason to include the tournament that finished later in the new ratings’ list but not the other. Just silly, but what could you expect?!

      4. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 4:23 pm

        Maybe the Elista results have been ‘through the submission process’ with FIDE – and the results in Chine have not.

        The fact that the China results are known to the public does not mean they have been presented to FIDE in a suitable way.

        The longstanding reputation of FIDE need not be impugned on this occasion.

      5. d4eneff6 Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 4:51 pm

        I admit I don’t have all the facts, but it still sounds like it boils down to favoritism. Remember when Anand got his tournament counted, while Carlsen didn’t. And now this, which *conveniently* leaves Topalov short of 2800.

        Wish I could turn to pro Starcraft at these times, but KESPA f’ed up the maps and now nobody can beat Protoss. Are there no decent intellectual sports left?!

      6. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 5:42 pm

        Judit Polgar (2693) is on the top 100 players list, Why is Hou Yifan (2571) not on the top 20 Juniors players list?

      7. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 6:14 pm

        Judit Polgar (2693) is on the top 100 rating list, Why is Hou Yifan (2571) not on the top 20 Juniors rating list?

        Top 20 Juniors January 2009 FIDE Rating List
        Rank Name Title Country Rating Games B-Year
        1 Carlsen, Magnus g NOR 2776 17 1990
        2 Karjakin, Sergey g UKR 2706 17 1990
        3 Vachier-Lagrave, Maxime g FRA 2696 28 1990
        4 Wang, Hao g CHN 2691 7 1989
        5 Rodshtein, Maxim g ISR 2650 25 1989
        6 Caruana, Fabiano g ITA 2646 22 1992
        7 Li, Chao b g CHN 2628 8 1989
        8 Nepomniachtchi, Ian g RUS 2628 8 1990
        9 So, Wesley g PHI 2627 19 1993
        10 Kuzubov, Yuriy g UKR 2626 22 1990
        11 Howell, David W L g ENG 2622 43 1990
        12 Andreikin, Dmitry g RUS 2614 14 1990
        13 Negi, Parimarjan g IND 2600 35 1993
        14 Le, Quang Liem g VIE 2591 22 1991
        15 Zhigalko, Sergei g BLR 2587 19 1989
        16 Nguyen, Ngoc Truong Son g VIE 2578 40 1990
        17 Khairullin, Ildar g RUS 2574 27 1990
        18 Gupta, Abhijeet g IND 2569 23 1989
        19 Saric, Ivan g CRO 2566 38 1990
        20 Andriasian, Zaven g ARM 2564 10 1989
        21 Safarli, Eltaj g AZE 2564 9 1992

      8. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 6:30 pm

        “And only because they stated in advance that Elista would be rated but Nanjing not does not make it right – there simply is no reason to include the tournament that finished later in the new ratings’ list but not the other.”

        The deadline was 15th December for all tournaments, except FIDE events. Grand Prix is a FIDE event, thats why it is rated. Everything is fine and according to rules.

        “Remember when Anand got his tournament counted, while Carlsen didn’t.”

        Thats exactly why the strict rules were made. To avoid these kind of things. But I see some people here want chaos.

      9. Mikhail Golubev Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 7:21 pm

        “The deadline was 15th December for all tournaments, except FIDE events.”

        So the FIDE Grand Prix circus is privileged – may anyone think that it is a normal rule?

        FIDE is not for FIDE (Kirsan, Berik, Campo, Makro and Azmai) my dears, FIDE is for all the chess world.

      10. Anonymous Reply
        December 31, 2008 at 7:59 pm

        In my opinion there is no problem – Elista is FIDE event, Nanjing is not and everything is clear.

        By the way look on Aronian. Is that the first time when the player who has elo 2750 is not in top ten?

      11. Anju Dube Reply
        January 1, 2009 at 5:01 am

        Somewhere in the official Bulletin it was
        suggested to publish the ratings in every two
        months.Has FIDE Accepted
        that?This suggestions will be a matter of relief for the ever-growing Grandmasters.Will anybody clear doubts.

      12. Marvins Gardens Reply
        January 1, 2009 at 3:04 pm

        “Are there no decent intellectual sports left?!”

        Monopoly.

        I choose the little dog piece.

      13. Anonymous Reply
        January 1, 2009 at 4:50 pm

        In my opinion there is no problem – Elista is FIDE event, Nanjing is not and everything is clear.

        Clear is just that FIDE makes what it want! Nanjing is not FIDE event? Why this event include in FIDE rating list generaly:-)))

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