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      It has been an exciting two weeks at Foros. Carlsen held on to his lead and won the event by a full point. Ivanchuk made a late surge to capture clear second.

      The July 2008 FIDE rating list is causing a lot of discussions. Should FIDE rate events faster? There are 2 sides to this. Unlike ratings from a national federation, the FIDE rating is used for norm calculation. Therefore, if FIDE rates event and updates as it happens, it will cause havoc to organizers, especially for RR events. I think a compromise can be to have two lists. One list should be updated weekly and the second to be updated every three months (for norm calculation purpose).

      Regardless of what the ranking says, chess fans around the world are excited about the progress of Carlsen. He has proven that he is the real deal and we may be witnessing one of the greatest ever. I hope that Carlsen can maintain his poise and grace and not let all the success get over his head. His father is doing a nice job managing him so far.

      It’s Saturday Open Forum! What would you like to discuss? The forum is yours!

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      21 Comments

      1. MayanKing Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 12:01 pm

        How do you compare Magnus Carlsen with Fischer and Kasparov at 17 years old?

      2. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 12:04 pm

        Look at their games from that age.

      3. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 12:06 pm

        Jeff Sonas (http://db.chessmetrics.com/) tried to compare chessplayers using his own rating system, but unfortunately is not developing his website anymore. However, it seems quite clear to me that Carlsen now is actually beter than Fischer and Kasparov at the same age.

      4. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 12:09 pm

        Let’s not get so carried away about age. Carlsen also has much more supertournament experience than anyone ever at his age- so no real comparison.

      5. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 12:42 pm

        In today’s age of the internet and computers why can’t things be calculated by FIDE on a monthly basis? It isn’t as if there are thousands of tournaments to process. How many FIDE rated tourneys are there world wide each month? How many of these have norm calculations associated with them?

      6. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 1:05 pm

        The live top list is keeping track of those over 2700.

        Do you have any idea how many players there are to keep track of if you did the whole FIDE list? There are atleast 50,000 players going to be on the next list! (it now goes down to 1401!)

      7. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 1:34 pm

        50,000 is just the active player.

        There are over 90,000 players including incative ones on the next list.

      8. Rustam Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 2:01 pm

        Magnus’ dad need to hit him over the head more often. A good smack keeps people in line.

        Am I right?

      9. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 2:19 pm

        How good would a Carlsen – Nakamura match be

      10. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 2:20 pm

        Why would Nakamura deserve that chance? Carlsen is better, nicer, and more polite.

      11. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 2:23 pm

        Nakamura has a good chance against Carlsen- but a lot depends on the first name. Henrik he would win easily, but not Magnus.

      12. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 2:54 pm

        Good morning,
        One of the tournaments I like the best is the women super strong North Ural, in July.
        This year I haven’t heard from it yet. Does anyone know if it will hapen?

      13. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 3:54 pm

        is a second list for norm calculation necessary? why not stipulate norms be calculated from the live list a set number of days before an event is closed for entry? or before start if that’s what’s needed, or whatever procedure is fitting for that req., what we need is an official real time representation of the standings. then we need world championship matches held every six months to a year – get some real time rivalry going. the heck with this Kamsky-Topalov last year stuff that nobody cares about, couldn’t even raise money for a prize fund. interest is there in Carlsen and Ivanchuk and Anand – get something good for chess fans going and chess will boom like it did with Fisher/Spassky.

        FIDE is stuck 50 years in the past and needs to wake up and smell the coffee. adapt, innovate, overcome. modernize IOWs

      14. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 4:25 pm

        “One list should be updated weekly and the second to be updated every three months (for norm calculation purpose).”

        You wan’na help doin’ it?

      15. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 4:26 pm

        “unfortunately is not developing his website anymore.”

        Almost nobody cares. It was all fake anyway.

      16. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 4:27 pm

        “Nakamura has a good chance against Carlsen”

        In Armageddon, yes, OH YES!!

      17. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 4:29 pm

        “FIDE is stuck 50 years in the past and needs to wake up and smell the coffee. adapt, innovate, overcome. modernize IOWs”

        You sound as if you are a FIDE official with smelly consience?

      18. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 4:34 pm

        Answer the point about having to rate possibly hundreds of thousands of players on the FIDE list. How can you do that so frequently? FIDE does not just to the top 10 or 100.

      19. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 5:15 pm

        Susan, how much money would FIDE require for you or another association to take over as the FIDE affiliate for the United States. I think it’s time to get FIDE to put pressure on the USCF. There are people in US chess who could pony up some big bucks if the prospect of success with FIDE was there.

      20. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 5:30 pm

        Susan, let’s see your Wimbledon picks.

      21. Anonymous Reply
        June 21, 2008 at 5:43 pm

        I reckon that she will pick Roger Federer to win Wimbledon this year.
        (Don’t know where I got that idea from?)

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