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      Home  >  General News • Major Tournaments  >  The new unofficial #1 in the world

      The new unofficial #1 in the world

      Ivanchuk, Live Ratings


      As of yesterday, here are the leaders of the LIVE rating chart:

      1 Carlsen 2791.2
      2 Anand 2789.6
      3 Morozevich 2787.0
      4 Ivanchuk 2786.8
      5 Topalov 2780.2
      6 Kramnik 2771.9
      7 Aronian 2755.3
      8 Radjabov 2750.7

      However, Carlsen and Anand lost today while Ivanchuk won. This should bring Ivanchuk’s rating to the #1 unofficial spot. I believe approximately 5 points separate the top 5 rankings!
      Source:
      http://chess.liverating.org

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      16 Comments

      1. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 8:46 pm

        This shows the funny side of all the interest in live ratings. Every day a new number 1. I prefer guys like Kasparow dominating the field clearly. He was a real no 1!

        Nevertheless, great to see Ivanchuck on top now. It shows youth has to gain more experience, and experience has future.

      2. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 8:51 pm

        1 Ivanchuk 2791.3 2 Morozevich 2787 3 Carlsen 2786.2 4 Topalov 2785.2 5 Anand 2783.8 6 Kramnik 2771.9 7Aronian 2761.1

        Anand might drop out the top 3 for the first time in in 15 years , and Ivanchuk might finally make number 1.

        There are only 2 games left before it becomes official.

      3. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 8:53 pm

        Make that Anand will drop out the top 3 for the first time in 12 years- sorry- but still momentous.

        Also note that we may be looking at official numbers 5 and 6 playing in Bonn for the title.

      4. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 9:03 pm

        What does that matter? We all know world’s strongest player is in politics and not playing at all. So let the others fight it out, no 1b, 3, 5 or 6.

      5. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 9:57 pm

        With two games to go it is still possible for any of the top 5 players to become official world number 1 in the October list:

        (I use normal scoring here)Ivanchuk will be official world number 1 either if he finishes with atleast 1.5/2 or if he finishes with 1/2 and none of Anand, Topalov or Carlsen finish with 2/2.

        Carlsen will be official world number 1 if he finishes with 2/2, and Ivanchuk with 1/2 or worse, or he finishes with 1.5/2, Ivanchuk 0.5/2 or worse and Topalov/Anand not 2/2.

        Topalov will be official number 1 if he finishes with 2/2, Ivanchuk with 1/2 or worse, Carlsen not 2/2,
        or he finishes with 1.5/2, Ivanchuk 0.5/2 or worse, Carlsen 1/2 or worse, and Anand not 2/2.

        Anand will be official world number 1 (in October list) if he finishes with 2/2, Ivanchuk 1/2 or worse, Carlsen, Topalov not 2/2,
        or he finishes with 1.5/2 Ivanchuk 0.5/2 or worse, Carlsen,Topalov 1/2 or worse.

        Finally..
        Morozevich will be official world number 1 if Ivanchuk finishes 0.5/2 or worse, Carlsen,Topalov and Anand score 1/2 or worse.

      6. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 11:05 pm

        Well, Morozevich cannot end up 1st, then. If Carlsen, Anand and Topalov all have to end up with 1/2 or less.
        Carlsen and Anand play each other, and they would then get at least 1/2 point each. Since Topalov is playing Anand, either Anand or Topalov have to end up with at least 1 point.

        It’s most likely that Ivanchuk will end up with being world no 1.

        Gegga

      7. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 11:11 pm

        Big Ivan 😀

      8. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 11:30 pm

        Again, I personally blame Garry Kasparov for this mess!!

        Had he not retired, we wouldn’t have every Tom, Dick and Carlsen becoming World No. 1 every other weekend.

        By the way, anybody know Fritz’s or Rybka’s live rating?

      9. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 11:34 pm

        Wait, wait, wait….

        I am getting suspicious here. What is with all potential World Championship contenders losing games stupidly? Do I see a pattern here? There was Kramnik, then Kamsky, now Anand. Hmmm. What a sacrifice concealing one’s secret opening arsenal can turn out to be. :0D

      10. Anonymous Reply
        September 10, 2008 at 11:57 pm

        Caption:

        I’m number 1!

        But I just did number 2!

        Doh!

      11. Anonymous Reply
        September 11, 2008 at 12:08 am

        Caption:

        This finger smells funny… where has it been lately?

      12. Anonymous Reply
        September 11, 2008 at 1:47 am

        Wow, with this coup by Chucky, all of the current top 6 have been #1 at some point, officially or unofficially.

      13. Anonymous Reply
        September 11, 2008 at 10:58 am

        gegga- 1/2 meant 1 point in 2 games, as eg. 0.5/2 was written for half point in 2 games. Sorry for the confusion.

        Obviously it is therefore still just possible although very unlikely that Morozevich will end up number 1. Probably he has about a 1 in 50 chance!

        On the other hand Ivanchuk probably has about a 2 in 3 chance of becoming official world number 1, while Carlsen 1 in 7, Topalov 1 in 10 and Anand 1 in 20 (these are just rough guesses to give an idea of the chances)

        For clarity I write it out below my estimates:
        Chances to be official number 1 next list..

        1 Ivanchuk 2/3
        2 Carlsen 1/7
        3 Topalov 1/10
        4 Anand 1/20
        5 Morozevich 1/50

      14. Anonymous Reply
        September 11, 2008 at 11:34 am

        My bad, of course 1/2 is 1 out of 2, not 0,5.

      15. Anonymous Reply
        September 11, 2008 at 1:02 pm

        I agree that this live rating hype is ridiculous. A rating should be based on perfromance in several tournaments, not in one game. It would be even funnier if the live rating was updated continuously, based on the computer estimate of the position, assigning probablities of win, draw and loss after every move 🙂

      16. Anonymous Reply
        September 11, 2008 at 9:27 pm

        Oh boy. So the live rating isn’t a result of loads of games over several years? So I can become # 1 by winning one or two games. Sweet. 🙂

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