White has waited too long to trade off his dark-squared bishop. Now Bb2 is weak due to weaknesses of the Q fields c2/d2/e2.
I didn’t see this immediately, but I saw the strong looking:
1. e3!
If white takes with pawn he looses knight, if he takes with queen he looses bishop.
1. … Qc2
Enforced because of Qe2? Bb5! and Q must leave protection of bishop. Here I spent some time thinking, before finding there is an actual enforcement of allready mentioned idea:
2. Bd7! Qe2 3. Bb5! Qxe3 (no more room for Q in 2nd rank) 4. Bxb2 is nicely up with bishop.
1. … e3 2. Qc2 Bd7 3. Qb3 exf2+ 4. Kxf2 Qf4+ 5. Qf3 Qxf3+ 6. Kxf3 Bxb2 black wins a piece. 5. Kany Bxb2 6. Qxb2 Qxg3 black also wins a piece. 4. other Bxb2 5. Qxb2 Qxg3 black also wins a piece. 3. Qe2/d3 Bb5 4. Qxe3 Bxb2 black also wins a piece. 3. Qb1 exf2+ 4. Kxf2 Qf4+ (4. other, Qxg3) 5. Kany Qxg3 black wins a piece. 3. Qd1 Bxb2 4. Qxd7 Rxc1+ (4. Rxc8+, Qxc8) black wins a piece again. 2. Qe2 Bb5 3. Rxc8+ Qxc8 4. Qxe3 Bxb2 2. Qxe3 Bxb2 2. fxe3 Qxg3 black wins a piece in all lines. that was fun. greets, jan
Looking at the line proposed by Vishnu, it looks better for white than for black. 3. Qg4 turns things around for white: 1… e3 2. Qe2 Bb5 3. Qg4 {Things start to look bad for black now.}
Then, if 3… Bxb2 4. Rxc8+ {Black now is doomed.}
One way it could play out is: 4… Kg7 5. Rxb8 Bd7 6. Qxd7 e2 7. Nxe2 Be5 8. Rb7 Kh6 9. Qxf7 Bd6 10. Rxb6 Bh2+ 11. Kxh2 a5 12. Qf4+ Kg7 13. Rb7+ Kg8 14. Qf7+ Kh8 15. Rb8# {White checkmates black!}
Alternatively, 4… Qxc8 5. Qxc8+ Kg7 6. fxe3 {The end is nigh for Black!}
Hello Craig, what if f. e. after 1. … e3 2. Qe2 Bb5 3. Qg4: f5 4. Nxf5 Rxc1+ 4. Bxc1 exf2+ 5. Kxf2 gxf5 6. Qxf5 Bd4+? Okay, it looks very complicated, it just seems to me that black must be winning. greets, jan
Jan, I would agree that 2… f5 followed eventually by … Rxc1+ is a good combination for black. It is an example of the 3… Rxc1 variant that I mentioned above gives black a slight advantage. I think in this case it is more than slight, so you are correct. 1… e3 2. Qe2 Bb5 3. Qg4 f5 4. Nxf5 Rxc1+ {Black has an advantage.} 5. Bxc1 exf2+ 6. Kxf2 gxf5 7. Qxf5 Bd4+? {Looking even better for black.}
This line could play out as follows: 8. Be3 Bxe3+ 9. Kxe3 Qg3+ 10. Qf3 Qe1+ 11. Kf4 Qxb4+ 12. Kg3 {Black has a decisive advantage.}
But, suppose that, instead of 4. Nxf5, white plays Qd1. This could play out something like: 4. Qd1 exf2+ 5. Kxf2 Qf4+ 6. Kg1 Rxc1 7. Qxc1 Bd4+ 8. Kh2 Qxc1 {Not good for white if this rook and queen exchange takes place this early.} 9. Bxc1 Be5 10. Bd2 Bd3 11. Be1 b5 12. Kg1 Bc4 13. a3 Bd4+ 14. Bf2 Bb2 15. Be1 Kf7 16. Bd2 Bxa3 {White clearly in trouble}
What if, instead of 4. Nxf5, white takes the initiative and captures black’s rook: 4. Rxc8+ Qxc8 5. Qf4 Bxb2 6. Qxe3 Qc1+ {Black invites queen exchange.} 7. Qxc1 Bxc1 {White obliges but now cannot defend its queen side pawns.} 8. Nf1 Ba3 9. Ne3 Bxb4 {Looks definitively bad for black.}
White can even things out a little better by playing: 4. Rxc8+ Qxc8 5. Qd1 Bxb2 6. Qb3+ Qc4 {Black invites queen exchange.} 7. Qxb2 f4 8. Ne2 Qxe2 {Black poses a mate threat, so white must exchange queens.} 9. Qxe2 Bxe2 {White is doomed once again.}
If, white declines to exchange queens in the preceding line of play, then black will play Qxf2+ and the end comes rather quickly. For example: 9. Qd4 Qxf2+ 10. Kh1 Bf1 11. Qxe3 Qxg2#
Why not just 1. … e3, overloading the Q?
e3
Black should win with
1…..e3
All logical continuations for White loses
2. Qxe3 Bxb2
or
2. fxe3 Bxb2 3. Qxb2 Qxg3
or
2. Qe2 exf2+
1…e3 2.fxe3
(2.Qxe3 Bxb2)
(2.Qe2 exf2+ 3.Qxf2
(3.Kxf2 Bxb2 4.Qxb2 Qf4+ 5.Kg1 Qxg3)
3…Bxb2 4.Qxb2 Qxg3)
2…Qxg3 3.Bxg7 Kxg7 4.Rc2
White has waited too long to trade off his dark-squared bishop. Now Bb2 is weak due to weaknesses of the Q fields c2/d2/e2.
I didn’t see this immediately, but I saw the strong looking:
1. e3!
If white takes with pawn he looses knight, if he takes with queen he looses bishop.
1. … Qc2
Enforced because of Qe2? Bb5! and Q must leave protection of bishop.
Here I spent some time thinking, before finding there is an actual enforcement of allready mentioned idea:
2. Bd7! Qe2
3. Bb5! Qxe3 (no more room for Q in 2nd rank)
4. Bxb2
is nicely up with bishop.
e4-e3
1. … e3
2. Qc2 Bd7
3. Qb3 exf2+
4. Kxf2 Qf4+
5. Qf3 Qxf3+
6. Kxf3 Bxb2
black wins a piece.
5. Kany Bxb2
6. Qxb2 Qxg3
black also wins a piece.
4. other Bxb2
5. Qxb2 Qxg3
black also wins a piece.
3. Qe2/d3 Bb5
4. Qxe3 Bxb2
black also wins a piece.
3. Qb1 exf2+
4. Kxf2 Qf4+ (4. other, Qxg3)
5. Kany Qxg3
black wins a piece.
3. Qd1 Bxb2
4. Qxd7 Rxc1+ (4. Rxc8+, Qxc8)
black wins a piece again.
2. Qe2 Bb5
3. Rxc8+ Qxc8
4. Qxe3 Bxb2
2. Qxe3 Bxb2
2. fxe3 Qxg3
black wins a piece in all lines.
that was fun. greets, jan
1…e3-+
1…e3 2.QE2 (If Qxp, BxB Losses. If pxp, QxN Losses for white) 2…Bb5 (Now White must loose the Bishop on b2)-+
Looking at the line proposed by Vishnu, it looks better for white than for black. 3. Qg4 turns things around for white:
1… e3
2. Qe2 Bb5
3. Qg4 {Things start to look bad for black now.}
Then, if
3… Bxb2
4. Rxc8+ {Black now is doomed.}
One way it could play out is:
4… Kg7
5. Rxb8 Bd7
6. Qxd7 e2
7. Nxe2 Be5
8. Rb7 Kh6
9. Qxf7 Bd6
10. Rxb6 Bh2+
11. Kxh2 a5
12. Qf4+ Kg7
13. Rb7+ Kg8
14. Qf7+ Kh8
15. Rb8# {White checkmates black!}
Alternatively,
4… Qxc8
5. Qxc8+ Kg7
6. fxe3 {The end is nigh for Black!}
4… Be8 {Only introduces a slight delay.}
5. Rxb8 Kf8
6. Qe4 exf2+
7. Kxf2 Bd4+
8. Kf3 Be5
9. Qxe5 f6
10. Qxf6+ Kg8
11. Rxe8#
But, if, instead, 3… Rc7 or Rxc1, then black has a slight advantage.
Hello Craig, what if f. e. after
1. … e3
2. Qe2 Bb5
3. Qg4: f5
4. Nxf5 Rxc1+
4. Bxc1 exf2+
5. Kxf2 gxf5
6. Qxf5 Bd4+?
Okay, it looks very complicated, it just seems to me that black must be winning.
greets, jan
Jan, I would agree that 2… f5 followed eventually by … Rxc1+ is a good combination for black. It is an example of the 3… Rxc1 variant that I mentioned above gives black a slight advantage. I think in this case it is more than slight, so you are correct.
1… e3
2. Qe2 Bb5
3. Qg4 f5
4. Nxf5 Rxc1+ {Black has an advantage.}
5. Bxc1 exf2+
6. Kxf2 gxf5
7. Qxf5 Bd4+? {Looking even better for black.}
This line could play out as follows:
8. Be3 Bxe3+
9. Kxe3 Qg3+
10. Qf3 Qe1+
11. Kf4 Qxb4+
12. Kg3 {Black has a decisive advantage.}
But, suppose that, instead of 4. Nxf5, white plays Qd1. This could play out something like:
4. Qd1 exf2+
5. Kxf2 Qf4+
6. Kg1 Rxc1
7. Qxc1 Bd4+
8. Kh2 Qxc1 {Not good for white if this rook and queen exchange takes place this early.}
9. Bxc1 Be5
10. Bd2 Bd3
11. Be1 b5
12. Kg1 Bc4
13. a3 Bd4+
14. Bf2 Bb2
15. Be1 Kf7
16. Bd2 Bxa3 {White clearly in trouble}
What if, instead of 4. Nxf5, white takes the initiative and captures black’s rook:
4. Rxc8+ Qxc8
5. Qf4 Bxb2
6. Qxe3 Qc1+ {Black invites queen exchange.}
7. Qxc1 Bxc1 {White obliges but now cannot defend its queen side pawns.}
8. Nf1 Ba3
9. Ne3 Bxb4 {Looks definitively bad for black.}
White can even things out a little better by playing:
4. Rxc8+ Qxc8
5. Qd1 Bxb2
6. Qb3+ Qc4 {Black invites queen exchange.}
7. Qxb2 f4
8. Ne2 Qxe2 {Black poses a mate threat, so white must exchange queens.}
9. Qxe2 Bxe2 {White is doomed once again.}
If, white declines to exchange queens in the preceding line of play, then black will play Qxf2+ and the end comes rather quickly. For example:
9. Qd4 Qxf2+
10. Kh1 Bf1
11. Qxe3 Qxg2#