White to move. How can White get out of this mess?
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White to move. How can White get out of this mess?
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1.Qe5+ Kf8 2.Qh8#
Inkább 1. d7+
1. d7+ Kd7 (1… Qd7 2. Rh8#) 2. Qd6+ Ke8 3. Rh8#
fischer: “patzer sees check, patzer gives check”
1.d7+
if 1…Qxd7 Rh8++
if 1…Kxd7 2.Qd6+ Ke8 3.Rh8++
1.d7+ in all lines.
>Anonymous said…
>1.Qe5+ Kf8 2.Qh8#
Well, but the problem isn’t a suimate. What if black refuses to cooperate and plays another legal move, such as 1. … Ne6?
On the other hand 1. d7+ seems to resolve things rather nicely.
d7!!!!
On 1.Qe5+ Kd7 (to Anonymous)
I found this move: d7+
1. Qe5+ will not work because of Ne6
The solution is:
1. d7+ after which there are only three possible continuations:
1… Kf8
2. Rh8#
or
1… Qxd7
2. Rh8#
or
1… Kxd7
2. Qd6+ Ke8
3. Rh8#
d7+!
1. d7+
if ..Kxd7
2. Qd6+ Ke8
3. Rh8#
if ..Kf6 or Qxd7
2. Rh8#
Cute. Not the problem but the first published post. 🙂
It’s mate in three moves (or two moves if black plays only the second best first move).
3. Rh8# (or 2. Rh8#)
This should be enough as there will be many right answers as soon as this one is published.
(Please do not see the following as nagging but as onjective opinion. I would be happy if someone commented on that perhaps some others of the community see it similar?)
Now I have to say something to the “new” system of lately publishing posts (solutions): I do not like it much.
The idea is for sure that everyone can solve it before there are correct answers but in fact no one needed to read the answers before solving it.
Formerly everyone could but did not have to read the posts whenever she wanted. So why is this system better?
What I liked about the old system was that there were often exercises that were analyzed a bit by some and corrected or completed by others. (Can it be that since than such ‘harder’ and worth discussing exercises have vanished completely?)
The solving thing was more a communitiy work but that what it is now: something for lone fighters. There is almost no community left. 🙁
I still hope to have more community here again in future after you rechanged your system. 😉
Best wishes
Jochen
hahahahaha D7!!
Anon @ 2:46, you are a very nice player, delivering a helpmate like this, however, black probably would not move the king to f8…
The key to winning from this position is to advance the pawn 1.d7+ and white will deliver checkmate very soon.
Beelze
1.d7!!
d7+
If Qxd7 or Kf8
Rh8#
If Kxd7
Qd6+ Ke8
Rh8#
d7+
if Kf8, Rh8 mate
if Qd7, Rh8 mate
if Kd7, Qd6+ Ke8, Rh8 mate
1.d7+!
If 1…Qxd7 2.Qh8#
If 1…Kxd7 2.Qd6+ Ke8 3.Rh8#
1.d7+ Kxd7 2.Qd6+ Kf8 3.Rh8#
1. … Qxd7 2. Rh8#
1. d7+ …
1…Qxd7 2.Rh8 mate
1…Kxd7 2.Qd6+ Ke8 3.Rh8 mate
1…Kf8 2.Rh8 mate
1.d7+ Kxd7 2. Qd6+ Kf8 3.Rh8#
1… Qxd7 2.Rh8#
1. d7+ leads to quick mate, no matter how black replies.
Qe5+ doesn’t prevent escape to d7. Rather,
1. d7+ Qxd7
2. Rh8#
or
1. d7+ Kf8
2. Rh8#
apologies for mental diarrhea.
1. d7+ Kxd7
2. Qd6+ Ke7
3. Rh8#
1.d7+ Qxd7 2.Rh8# or 1. -, Kxd7 2.Qd6+ Kf8 3. Rh8#
1.d7+ and either 2. Rh8# or 2. Qd6# follows
dear anon
i think after
1 Qe5+
black stands better with …Kd7 than he would with Kf8
however, then there is
2 Qe7+ Kc6
3 d7 discovered check
if black runs b5 it looks bad. i think he would be better with 3… Ne6. what happens after that i don’t know.
there is also a nasty line with 3 Qe8+ Kb6 4 d7 discovered check Ka7, etc
better than any of this would be to force the issue with the anti-intuitive:
d7+
if
1… Qxd7
2 Rh8#
if
1… Kxd7
2 Qd6+ Ke8
3 Rh8#
and, if
1… Kf8
2 Rh8#
Very well said, Jochen. I agree with you 100%
Very well said, Jochen. I agree with you 100%
Jochen, I don’t remember the old system, but I think part of the reason Susan is delaying posts at present is to prevent spam from being published.
Jochen,
The reason why I have the moderation mode on is because a lot of young people are reading this blog. Unfortunately, I have people posting obscene material and profanity daily. Because of these half a dozen or so posts everyday, I have to put the moderation on. It is a lot more work for me but I do not know of any other way to prevent it.
Best wishes,
Susan Polgar
d7+ felipe la
comedia
Susan, I know this spam problem, but you can though publish the not spam posts faster (as you do so in non-exercice topics) can’t you!?
You publish some “wrong” posts in between (saying wrong or insufficient non-solutions) but you do not publish posts that hold the correct solution. (That is for sure not a spam problem.)
And you and your team are usually quick to publish posts in other non-exercise topics (all over the day but night) and meanwhile not publish the spam in between so why does it not work in exercise topics?
Sorry to say but as far as I can see only the non-automatic unlocking of the posts is given through spam (that is sad but no way to do anything against – and your team handles it well!) not the delayed unlocking of solutions. There is a big difference is there?
But it is all your decision, of course. I still really like your blog (and usually visit it at least once per day) as it gives a passive player like me a perfect way to stay tuned over things happening in the chess world and meanwhile gives exercises to solve (not analyse) them.
Thanks, Wes Emmett for the support!
Best wishes
Jochen
PS: This post is published lately for another reason: It’s late at night in USA, of course this is a good reason. 🙂